Taigi, ar tai tarsi fabriko grindys, atviros tiesioginiam visuomenės dalyvavimui, kad žmonės galėtų atvykti atlikti tam tikrą darbą be kvalifikacijos, tiesiog apsilankę joje ...? Ar būtų galima gauti specialių monetų ar bilietų darbui, kuriuos galėtumėte išleisti kavinėje ir prekybos centre? O gal tai kažkas kita?
Kaip tai iš tikrųjų veiktų, kai skirtingas skaičius žmonių apsilankytų ir skirtingi darbo įgūdžiai? Ar tai būtų internetiniai, ar vietiniai fiziniai darbai? Kaip būtų galima tinkamai veikti tokioje vietoje?
So, is it like a factory floor open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...? Would one get special coins or tickets for work, that one could spend on the coffee shop and supermarket? Or, is it something different?
How would this actually work with varying number of people coming to visit it, and varying work skills? Would these be web-based, or local physical works? How would such place be managed to function properly?
Taigi, ar tai tarsi fabriko grindys, atviros tiesioginiam visuomenės susidomėjimui, kad žmonės galėtų atvykti atlikti tam tikrą darbą be kvalifikacijos, tiesiog apsilankę joje ...? Ar būtų galima gauti specialių monetų ar bilietų darbui, kuriuos galėtumėte išleisti kavinėje ir prekybos centre? O gal tai kažkas kita? Mokėjimai būtų mokami jūsų pamainos pabaigoje arba savaitės pabaigoje, jei tai pigiau. Jūs manote, kad keistis pinigais bus pigu!
Taip! Šiems darbams nereikia daug mokymų. Išvirti kavą kažkam yra lengva. Lentynos sukrauti yra lengvas, bet sunkus darbas.
Tai būtų vietinis fizinis darbas. Atsirastų žmonių, sąmoningai nevadinamų vadybininkų, kurie teiktų patarimus ir paprastus mokymus.
So, is it like a factory floor open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...? Would one get special coins or tickets for work, that one could spend on the coffee shop and supermarket? Or, is it something different? There would be payments at the end of your shift or at the end of the week if that's cheaper. You'd think exchanging money would be cheap!
Yes! These jobs don't require much training. Making a coffee for someone is easy. Stacking shelves is easy but hard work.
It would be local physical work. There would be people, deliberately not called managers who would provide guidance and simple training.
// Taip! Šiems darbams nereikia daug mokymų. Išvirti kavą kažkam yra lengva. Lentynos sukrauti yra lengvas, bet sunkus darbas.
Aš matau, kur tai vyksta. Patinka atidaryti bazę? Aš žinau ką mums reikės bazių, yra [HiveCells] parkas (https://0oo.li/project/236/the -hivecell-project), kurie atvyks į darbą ir piknikas.
// open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...?
I like the low barrier of entry in this idea. It reminds me cooperatives (all members share profit) and community gardens (come to work anytime, with no money earned though, just for community bonding).
I guess people would want to do the work without prior training, but would it be enough work for all who want it? Say a coffee shop needs 5 people to serve coffee, then what do other 50 people work as? And what if 10 people want to work at the same time?
Overall, this idea seems to be about people's freedom to create jobs for themselves when they feel like working. So I wonder, what other work could be imagined in such local economies? I think adding a layer of meaning would make this idea stronger. What do people in local communities need? Based on needs various spaces with various jobs could be created. Say, local communities decide they want more beautiful spaces to enjoy nature in their neighbourhoods, so they design gardens and do the planting together, or restablish wilderness parks, or create makerspaces to play with the tools, marketplaces to sell what they make, and so on.
A question comes here on how would people locally self-organise to work on creating these spaces together? So that they could work in these spaces when they feel like it after.
You could have a website where people register their interest to work on a certain day and then random number people are picked. That's for the case there being 50 people wanting to work but only 5 spaces.
It might have to be just in time scheduling so it's always the day before that the schedule gets set. It might be inconvenient. You've got a lot of people chasing a few jobs.
Could have nailbars, landscaping services, bars, restaurants.
Taigi, ar tai tarsi fabriko grindys, atviros tiesioginiam visuomenės dalyvavimui, kad žmonės galėtų atvykti atlikti tam tikrą darbą be kvalifikacijos, tiesiog apsilankę joje ...? Ar būtų galima gauti specialių monetų ar bilietų darbui, kuriuos galėtumėte išleisti kavinėje ir prekybos centre? O gal tai kažkas kita?
Kaip tai iš tikrųjų veiktų, kai skirtingas skaičius žmonių apsilankytų ir skirtingi darbo įgūdžiai? Ar tai būtų internetiniai, ar vietiniai fiziniai darbai? Kaip būtų galima tinkamai veikti tokioje vietoje?
So, is it like a factory floor open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...? Would one get special coins or tickets for work, that one could spend on the coffee shop and supermarket? Or, is it something different?
How would this actually work with varying number of people coming to visit it, and varying work skills? Would these be web-based, or local physical works? How would such place be managed to function properly?
Taip! Šiems darbams nereikia daug mokymų. Išvirti kavą kažkam yra lengva. Lentynos sukrauti yra lengvas, bet sunkus darbas.
Tai būtų vietinis fizinis darbas. Atsirastų žmonių, sąmoningai nevadinamų vadybininkų, kurie teiktų patarimus ir paprastus mokymus.
Įdomu, ar tai būtų galima demokratiškai valdyti.
Yes! These jobs don't require much training. Making a coffee for someone is easy. Stacking shelves is easy but hard work.
It would be local physical work. There would be people, deliberately not called managers who would provide guidance and simple training.
I wonder if it could be democratically managed.
// Taip! Šiems darbams nereikia daug mokymų. Išvirti kavą kažkam yra lengva. Lentynos sukrauti yra lengvas, bet sunkus darbas.
Aš matau, kur tai vyksta. Patinka atidaryti bazę? Aš žinau ką mums reikės bazių, yra [HiveCells] parkas (https://0oo.li/project/236/the -hivecell-project), kurie atvyks į darbą ir piknikas.
// Yes! These jobs don't require much training. Making a coffee for someone is easy. Stacking shelves is easy but hard work.
I see where this is going. Like opening a base? I know what we'll need bases for, there's a fleet of HiveCells that'll arrive for work and a picknick.
// open for direct public engagement, so people can come do some work, unqualified, just by visiting it...?
I like the low barrier of entry in this idea. It reminds me cooperatives (all members share profit) and community gardens (come to work anytime, with no money earned though, just for community bonding).
I guess people would want to do the work without prior training, but would it be enough work for all who want it? Say a coffee shop needs 5 people to serve coffee, then what do other 50 people work as? And what if 10 people want to work at the same time?
Overall, this idea seems to be about people's freedom to create jobs for themselves when they feel like working. So I wonder, what other work could be imagined in such local economies? I think adding a layer of meaning would make this idea stronger. What do people in local communities need? Based on needs various spaces with various jobs could be created. Say, local communities decide they want more beautiful spaces to enjoy nature in their neighbourhoods, so they design gardens and do the planting together, or restablish wilderness parks, or create makerspaces to play with the tools, marketplaces to sell what they make, and so on.
A question comes here on how would people locally self-organise to work on creating these spaces together? So that they could work in these spaces when they feel like it after.
You could have a website where people register their interest to work on a certain day and then random number people are picked. That's for the case there being 50 people wanting to work but only 5 spaces.
It might have to be just in time scheduling so it's always the day before that the schedule gets set. It might be inconvenient. You've got a lot of people chasing a few jobs.
Could have nailbars, landscaping services, bars, restaurants.